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News banners in summaries
by Iris Messenger on 22 Apr 2009 10:04 AMAt this point, I'm not even dropping reviews when i remove banners, because this announcement has been here over two weeks, and if you have a story with an oversize banner and the banner gets removed, then tough beans. You have had your warning, and if you honestly missed the front page bolded BANNERS IN SUMMARIES news post, then I have little sympathy. This may sound harsh, but I really just don't have the time.
please address any questions regarding banners and banner size in this comment thread. i honestly can't go through all of your reviews seeing if you dropped me a question in the answer to my notification of your banner removal. Thanks =]
I just thought I'd bring your attention to this rule regarding banners in your summaries. Banners in summaries may not exceed 300x150 pixels in size. 300 x 150 banners should be smaller than or equal to this. If you don't have a photo-editing program that makes it easy to tell how big your banner is, download that box and use it as a size gauge wherever you make your banners. The reason we have this rule is so that large images on the page won't slow down loading speed. I'm not going to be super-nitpicky about size, but please don't make your banners that much bigger than that little box. I'm bringing this up because the banners are getting insanely large here, guys! If you've got a banner larger than 300 x 150, then be aware that I am going through the archives and removing banners that don't comply with size regulations, and so if you find your banner has been removed, then it is too big. If you'd like to do me a favor and remove your banner yourself if it is oversize, please do! I know this means that a lot of you will have to get new banners, but we do have a request section on our forum, there are so many places and people that will make banners regulation size, if you just include that in your request. Thanks in advance for your understanding! ~ Iris (who is semi-back from computer probation :D)
EDIT (5/19/2009) On another side note, but still about the rules... If you do not submit one chapter at a time, all of the chapters (whether you submit two or twenty!) will be deleted from the queue and you will recieve a rejection letter asking you to re-submit them one at a time. I don't have the time and I know that none of the other mods do either to go through 70 submissions when 20 are of the same story and the first chapter can't be accepted because it violates the rules so we have to deal with what to do with the subsequent chapters. Please, just follow the rules. -Jenn Comments
Um, yeah...I know that's the rules and all, but seriously--what's the point of a banner if you need a magnifying glass to read it?? Just wondering...
- Ghostwriter71 on 22 Apr 2009 11:02 AM
350 x 100 is plenty of space, actually, and I'm speaking as someone who has experience making banners that size.
- Iris Messenger on 22 Apr 2009 11:08 AM
OK, now I'm confused...which isn't that strange coming from me... Which are they to be: 350X100, or 300X150? Here you said the first, above you said the second...just trying to clarify. - Ghostwriter71 on 22 Apr 2009 12:09 PM
Oh yeah...and glad you're back!!! :)
- Ghostwriter71 on 22 Apr 2009 12:10 PM
x_x it's 300 x 150, i just fail at life ...
- Iris Messenger on 22 Apr 2009 12:14 PM
Stop beating yourself up...I mix things around everyday! They call me "Ghostwriter The Confused"! Don't feel bad. And thanks for the clarification!
- Ghostwriter71 on 22 Apr 2009 12:17 PM
no problems :D -resists urge to beat self with stick- - Iris Messenger on 22 Apr 2009 12:22 PM
Your banner doesn't need to tell the story for you; essentially, it's an advertisement to draw people in before they even read your story. Big banners are an unnecessary slowdown on the site, and, personally, I find smaller banners more, well, banner-like, attractive, and effective. - Blonde Bella on 22 Apr 2009 02:56 PM
Ok, whatever...it took me long enough to get the one I had, and even then I needed tons of help, so I think I'll just have to forgo any more banners...
- Ghostwriter71 on 22 Apr 2009 03:25 PM
I right there with you. On my third chapter, I just wrote in my summary what it was supposed to say because you couldn't read it at all.... Also the banner for His Little Sister was taken off and I loved the banner. I can't find a site where it adjusts it so it will be smaller... Oh well. I'm just ranting don't listen to me...
- Loch Ness Werewolf on 22 Apr 2009 06:25 PM
you're semi-back! thats wickedness. =]
- exgymnastbritt on 23 Apr 2009 12:05 AM
i hsve no stuff on my computer to tell me the size! i got really upset last night when i saw a review and then found out what had happened! Also, why do you tell us in a review from a chapter halfway through the story? if you're reading the stories then i don't mind so much.
- Moonlight Hunter on 23 Apr 2009 01:20 AM
um ... i'm not reading the stories, i just click on reviews and go down to the bottom box that says "leave a review" ... so I have no idea where the review shows up. I figured, however, that people would like some sort of notice that their banner had been taken down. that little box i linked to in the above announcement is 300 x 150, and that is how you can somewhat measure your banner size. if you need to scale things down, you can do that at imageshack where it says "scale" ... you can use your photobucket account to edit it smaller ... there are quite a few ways to figure out the size. - Iris Messenger on 23 Apr 2009 07:11 AM
I know the banner size seems too small (it does look quite tiny on my screen...) but I'd like to remind everyone that big banners take long to load. My computer isn't too slow but it's also not the fastest kind, and it can be quite irritating to wait for some huge banner to finally appear. I can only imagine what it's like for people with older computers. Also, they use up a lot of space and that way a lot of good stories are hidden between them and go unnoticed, which is a shame. Just a reminder of why the rules are the way they are :) It's not without reason. - Tundra on 23 Apr 2009 01:15 PM
Yes, yes, Tundra, I understand rules are rules are rules...I do. I'm just sad that my story won't get read anyomre now...I couldn't make a banner to save my life, and now it's gone (Yes, I know it's the rules!!!!) I think that banner was the only reason my story had so many reviews...it certainly isn't my writing. So now I will duobtless be lucky to get anymore reviews...ah well...it was nice while it lasted... - Ghostwriter71 on 23 Apr 2009 03:50 PM
1. You shouldn't hide under your banner to make up for what you feel is not quality writing (though I do not think it is.) 2. Anyone who is more likely to review a story because of a banner mystifies me. Then again, maybe I just have short term memory loss and completely forget about the summary by the time I read the actually story. 3. The rules have been here and recorded this entire time. It's not a new rule that you dislike; it's not something the mods made up to ruin your fanfiction career (and I use that term loosely). It is here, and has been here, to make reading on the site more enjoyable for everyone.
If you have a logical reason (not just people won't read my stories anymore) for why you dislike a rule, or a reasonable alternative, feel free to complain. But, in my opinion, whining about something without support or other options is utterly and completely useless - Blonde Bella on 23 Apr 2009 04:21 PM
YIKES!!! I just got spanked...someonesure is fiesty...no need to put me down, you know...insulting me and what not...if you'd care to read, I know that it's the rules, I KNOW it isn't anything personal, I KNOW I suck at writing, I KNOW it wasn't made up to get at me, I kNOW it's been there the whole time...heck, I'm NOT taking it personally...but sheesh-what I DIDN'T know was that you hated me so much...yikes... But sometimes whinning is just ...fun!!! :D GO MODS!!!! :D :D But seriously, a lot of poeple do see a banner and just decide to rea it because of that...and for whatever I have done to make you hate me so much, I appolgize...:(
- Ghostwriter71 on 23 Apr 2009 04:59 PM
WHOA! Calm down please ... nobody hates anyone here ... - Iris Messenger on 23 Apr 2009 05:10 PM
Keep the peace guys, we all mean well!
- black2red on 23 Apr 2009 06:01 PM
lol im not going to lie, i look at the banner before i read the summery-just as i look at the cover of a book before reading the back or inside flap. that or i'll choose something random but still. i do it. and yes-dun dun dunnn i do judge a book by its cover (I know i know crazy right? i can't help it). if the banner is really bad, i tend not to click on it. but the big banners are really annoying and just = bad story. i don't know-sometimes its better not to have one on a story at all.
- awsomealice94 on 23 Apr 2009 09:12 PM
haha... i was just looking at all of these comments. and sometimes people make me laugh. *giggles some more* simmer down now, simmer down. =] - exgymnastbritt on 24 Apr 2009 12:38 AM
Wow... I didn't mean to start a battle here o_O GW: Don't worry about the banner! People will read your story anyway. Stop putting yourself down -- you're a great writer, and you know it! To me, banners are just an addition to the summary. They don't influence my decision to read the story in any way. No actually, that's slightly wrong: ugly and too big banners make me skip right over the story. Consequently, banners can be more of a disadvantage than an asset. So if anyone's worried about not getting readers because you don't have a banner, don't be. When nobody has a big banner, nobody will be discriminated :) - Tundra on 24 Apr 2009 03:43 AM
If you take a look on the "Most Recent" section of the Archives, it looks much, much neater and is easier on the eyes. It also loaded much faster for me xP
- black2red on 24 Apr 2009 08:54 AM
Let me make one last comment on this, and then I am done. I was not insulting anyone or their writing, though I now see I was really unclear in my last post where I meant to say that I do believe it is quality writing. I also wasn't saying that read counts aren't higher because of banners, just that review counts won't necessarily be higher. As has been pointed out, a big, slow to load banner is a turn-off--you may have more success with drawing in readers with no banner at all. And, finally, I agree with Jacquelyn that the page looks much cleaner.
Ok, I am officially going to shut my mouth (or fingers, I suppose, but how does one shut her fingers?) and leave it be, no matter how strong the urge to have the last word. Maybe I can channel that into writing, since I haven't posted anything in a ridiculously long time. Peace out:) - Blonde Bella on 24 Apr 2009 10:20 PM
I have a question that has nothing to do with the above: I am trying to add a new story, but for some reason the preview keeps showing that it belongs to some series that I did not put it into (does that make sense?). It's happened before, but then it was fixed before I could say anything... Now it's been like that for over a day. Plus, the paragraphs have disappeared and I have to add them manually (I know that's not a new problem and there's nothing you can do). Am I the only one experiencing this problem? With the series, I mean? - Tundra on 25 Apr 2009 04:36 AM
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